'Replies from Roman Catholics'

R.J. Grigaitis - 41

8th May, 2008

Subject:  You have a number of errors

I came across you site looking for some information about Jehovah's Witnesses and look at what you've written about the Catholic Church.

Very little of what you say the Catholic Church teaches is true. You should investigate a topic before you write about it. You should read some of the information on my site. You can start with these articles:

http://grigaitis.net/?doc=articles/coc_cath/index.html
http://grigaitis.net/?doc=articles/cocansw/index.html
http://grigaitis.net/?doc=articles/understand.html
http://grigaitis.net/?doc=articles/rock.html
http://grigaitis.net/?doc=articles/word.html

Dóminus vobíscum,
Russell Grigaitis, sfo


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TCE replies:  17th May 2008

Dear Russell

It would have served you well to read our home page, even briefly, for there we point out the conditions under which we respond to e-mails (including the advice to include any information mailers wish us to consider in the text of their e-mail - as we do not have the time to surf endlessly following links).

In the spirit in which the site is assembled, we have briefly scanned through your articles and find that, apart from your repeated ability to indulge in circular and illogical reasoning, and self-congratulation (also witnessed in your advice to 'read some of the information on my site. You can start with these articles ...'), there are so many errors in your pages that it would be difficult to know where to begin a critique - should we be so inclined to respond!

If you wish to pick
a single major topic in which you believe we have erred then we may consider further comment.

Until then we will continue to concentrate on the soon-coming pages of e-mail dialogue with other Catholics, and other initiatives, rather than potential 'gnat straining' (Matthew 23v24).

In Christ Jesus

TCE


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Russell replies:  17th May 2008

Dear David,

I do not have time to engage in another discussion with someone. I thought that if you want to write about the Catholic Church you would not want to misrepresent her by saying she teaches one thing when in fact she does not.

Dóminus vobíscum,
Russell Grigaitis, sfo


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TCE replies:  17th May 2008

Dear Russell

we also do not seek to spend too much time in discussion at the moment but,
if you are going to start by throwing out accusations (as you did), surely
you recognise that the onus is on you to prove that you have good reason for
your claims?

We merely asked you to give one example - is that really too much to expect?

Readers of your e-mails and website are unlikely to think so.

In Christian Truth

TCE


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Russell replies:  17th May 2008

Actually, it is too much to expect. I'm sick and my memory is not very good, so I don't remember specific examples, and since you don't give your address in your e-mails, I can't refresh my memory. If I remember correctly, instead of doing any real research, you simple asked a few Catholics, including a priest, questions about Catholicism. Judging from their answers, you asked very ignorant people. Here is where you can find the true answers to your questions about Catholicism:

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/

Dóminus vobíscum,
Russell Grigaitis, sfo


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TCE replies:  19th May 2008

Dear Russell

we are very sorry to hear that you are sick.

And, sadly, your memory is indeed failing you for, apart from brief quotes of Charles Chiniquy's expose of Rome, our article on
'Rome and Ecumenism' covers a fair spectrum of papal errors (past and present!) including quotes from Vatican II.

There is also the fact that the article was written to address the reason so many are trapped in ecumenism - because they are palpably ignorant of Scripture.

Had you been willing or capable of discussion this is the kind of subject we would have addressed:


What is the truth about Rome's treatment of the Bible?

Wishing you a speedy recovery.

In Christ Jesus

TCE


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Russell replies:  22nd May 2008

I took a brief look at the link you gave, and I read nothing new.
The Berean Call is the thing I remembered about ignorant so-called Catholics. I'm one of the few that are truly Catholic; that is, I accept all that the Catholic Church teaches. My main public mission is to help others become fully Catholic.

Most of your errors are summed up in one very illogical assumption: you believe that the Church was somehow based on a book that did not exist yet.

Dóminus vobíscum,
Russell Grigaitis, sfo


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TCE replies:  24th May 2008

Dear Russell

we have already detailed the true history of the '
book [you say] did not exist yet' and can supply these facts if you so desire.

2012 Note - These details are now found under headings, such as [full menu on
this page]:

What does the history of the Bible reveal?

And other headings, e.g.:

Can anyone claim that Rome is even slightly Biblical?

How did we actually get the Bible?

Can Rome logically deny Sola Scriptura?

Did the apostles consult Scripture or the Holy Spirit?

Does 'Tradition' - 'oral teachings' of the apostles - have a place?

Passages in Scripture point to the importance of Tradition?

No Christian faith is more closely aligned with the Bible than Catholicism?

What is 'the church' founded on?



Christ's church would be 'God's household, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone,  21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit' (Ephesians 2:19-22; cf. 1 Corinthians 10:4 - dealt with in detail in previous dialogues with Catholics) and is also symbolically depicted in Revelation (21:14) as one aspect of the church - the 'bride' of Christ:

14 And the wall of the city
[the Lamb's wife - His church!] had twelve foundation stones, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

As explained in detail in previous correspondence, the New Testament never restricts the church's foundation to Peter alone, as Papists claim, but founds the church on the Rock that is Christ and the entire apostolate - and never in regard to their persons but only in regard to their office in the church as authoritative teachers of doctrine who confess the truth about Christ's deity and Messiahship.  True Scripture never warrants Rome's dogma of the exclusive primacy of 'Peter's chair' within Christendom in any form of words found in the whole 66 books that constitute the Old & New Testaments [as determined in the references given above]!

We welcome any challenge to the facts stated here - and in previous correspondence.

In Christ Jesus

TCE


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