'Replies from Muslims'

Rami Sbeiti - 34

24th May, 2004

(Continued from page 435)

Qur'an and the Bible - same origin?

To conclude: since we have shown in many different ways that the  Qur'an and the Bible contain completely different and contradictory teachings we know that they cannot possibly have the same origin.

It is also easy to prove that the Qur'an teaches another Christ as shown simply by examining the evidence and, as detailed earlier, you should be aware that the apostles of Christ warned of '
other Christ's' in these passages (2 Corinthians 11:3-4):

3 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity
of devotion to Christ. 4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.

Clearly, the Qur'an describes '
another Jesus,' 'a different spirit' and 'a different gospel'!  Unless you seriously investigate the difference between what your Qur'an teaches, and its many flaws, with the incredible accuracy of the Bible and its unique message, you will never discover why you simply cannot trust Muhammad and his Qur'an with your salvation.

We have shown sufficiently that Muhammad and his Qur'an never promise eternal security of any kind, even to the most sincere, faithful, devout, zealous, and holy believer - unless they die in
jihad - trying to kill those who are not Muslim!  And the historical facts, such as 9/11, show that in the process such suicide killers who are revered by Islam actually kill fellow Muslims.  The fatalism of Islam means that such random evil is all in the will of Allah who does exactly as he pleases with mankind and demonstrates no genuine love for the people of the earth - only pain and death!
The doctrine of fatalism -
Enshallah ('If Allah wills!') leads to many uncaring, unloving actions in Islam.  Have you heard about the clearly avoidable deaths of young children in Teheran, Iran?  Despite the high incidence of 'accidental' deaths - when young children fall over the low balcony railings in apartment buildings to the ground - the belief that this must have been the will of Allah means that authorities do nothing to alter the height of the railings to prevent further tragedies!  The majority of the people living in the West are not Jews or Christians but atheistic pagans who condone many vile acts, such as the abortion of unwanted babies because the pregnancy will interfere with their lifestyle or social ambitions (few are for medical or health reasons of mother or baby and, as Christians predicted, they now kill for the most minor of foetal 'abnormalities' - such as hare-lip or cleft palate, which occur in approximately one in 600-800 births).  Orthodox Christians abhor both of these illustrations of unloving disregard for the life of infants and young children and we know that, as with all His Words, Jesus' meant his statement about children to be taken utterly seriously (Matthew 19:13-14; cf. Mark 10:14; Luke 18:16):

'Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.  But Jesus said,
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.'

We notice Jesus' Words to all who would believe in Him (
Matthew 18:3):

'... Verily I say unto you,
Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

The Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is not about striving to keep the law, creeds, regulations, pilgrimages, or prayers etc.  All of us know that it is impossible for anyone to keep these completely, or with anything like 100% purity and dedication, and the Bible makes clear the  impossibility of gaining salvation and thus heaven or Paradise by means of the works of the law (
Romans 3:20). Far from teaching a system of salvation by works, the reward of eternal life is promised to those who do not regard their good works as an end in themselves, but see them as marks, not of human achievement, but of hope in God. Their trust is not in their good works, but in God, the only source of glory, honour, and incorruption.

In speaking of the Jew, Paul says he "will be judged" by the law, but this does not imply exoneration, for no Jew, or anyone else, has ever succeeded in keeping the law 100%.  Paul links sin with law deliberately in order to prepare the hearer for the statement to the effect that the righteous are not those who "hear the law."  We have a reminder in
James 1:22-24 of the ease with which any believer can hear the law read and go away without any effect on his life and conduct:

22  But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deluding your own selves. 23 
For if any one is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a mirror: 24  for he beholdeth himself, and goeth away, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

Paul's purpose is to undercut the position of the Jew, or anyone else, who is counting on his obedience to the law for acceptance with God. His compliance would have to be
perfect if he were to be declared righteous by an absolutely righteous God for we also read (James 2:10):

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is become guilty of all.

Clearly the genuinely merciful God of the Bible, unlike the capricious 'god' Allah, knew this when  He prepared Jesus, 'the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world' (
John 1:29) for 'at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly' (Romans 5:6).

The Allah of the Qur'an is the unknowable, because he has not created man in his image, and after his likeness, as has the God of the Bible (
Genesis 1:26). All our knowledge of the One True God is based upon this being a fact. It means that moral terms mean the same for both God and man. If love, justice, mercy, truth, goodness, righteousness, evil, do not mean the same thing to both God and man, it would be impossible for us to know Him. With Allah it is not so, hence the impossibility of ever knowing Him.

This is illustrated by Ibn Hazm's comment on the Qur'an's use of the term 'Merciful', which stands at the head of every Sura:

While the Qur'an uses the name for God which means 'the most merciful of those who show mercy', this cannot mean that He is merciful in the way that we understand the word. For God is evidently not merciful. He tortures His children with all manner of sicknesses, warfare, and sorrow.  What then does the Qur'an mean? Simply that merciful is one of God's names, a name that is not in any way descriptive of God or throws any light on His nature. We use it because the Qur'an uses it, but do not pretend to understand what is meant by it.

There is nothing in Allah which corresponds to the meaning of mercy in human understanding. So 'the Loving', as applied to Allah, does not mean loving according to human understanding of the term. Muslims even assert that Allah does not love men, for the same reason that they deny he is merciful in our sense of the term  - the awful sufferings and sorrows with which he afflicts men, and the term justice also, as we have already noted (the Bible explanation is given in many verses, e.g.,
Romans 8:28; 2 Corinthians 4:17,18; 1 Peter 1:6,7; Job 23:10; Psalm 119:67; 107:4-21).

Thus the true seeker after God, confronted with the God of the Bible, must choose between the unknowable Allah and the God who has revealed Himself fully in Jesus Christ as the God of Redemption, and Whom to know is 'Life Eternal' (
John 17:3).  He may be known because the terms we use in human relationships - love, mercy, justice, goodness, truth, righteousness, evil - have the same meaning for the God of the Bible as they do for us, because He has made us in His own image as moral beings to be His beloved children. What is the value of the Qur'an?  How can it be a 'revelation' from God when, far from revealing, it conceals a God it claims to reveal? It is truly amazing that Muslims do not consider the only logical conclusion of their own doctrines of Allah on their belief in Him, and in the Qur'an as 'Final Revelation'.  The Gospel of Christ has been proven to stand the most rigid test of reason and time, which is not true of Islam or any other religion, showing why man needs a Perfect Saviour and why Christ alone proves to be that Saviour.

The renowned Muslim commentator Al-Baizawi said the word 'mercy' in the Qur'an 'expresses that universal attribute of Allah which he extends to all mankind, the wicked and the good, believers and unbelievers', when the fact that he makes salvation depend wholly on merit and good deeds which clearly excludes mercy. That mercy in Allah excludes justice is to be seen from the
Dictionary of Islam, which states:

'Mercy is used as of a king exercising the prerogative of mercy, but not of a father who suffers with his child, and loves him out of his disgrace.'

It is not surprising, therefore, that 'Father' is not one of the ninety-nine names given to Allah in the Qur'an.

The Christian has confidence that on that day he will face a righteous God who will be faithful to His own Word. But to the Muslim there is no such thing as a right or wrong principle. To him there is no eternal principle of good.  'Right' is what Allah commands at a given time; 'wrong' is what He forbids. And what He commands at one time, He may forbid at another. For example, Allah alone is to be worshipped - the worship of any creature is the greatest sin. Yet Satan is pictured as being eternally punished because he would not worship Adam (Sura 2:32)!  The other angels were ordered to do so, and received Allah's approval for their obedience.  Further, Muhammad declared certain teachings to be final truth, only to cancel those teachings shortly after.
There are some 225 cancelled commands in the Qur'an.  Allah, it seems, may be inconsistent because He is bound by no pervading laws of morality or holiness.

Al-Ghazali wrote:

'Allah's justice is not to be compared to the justice of men. For a man may be supposed to act unjustly by invading the possession of another, but no injustice can be conceived on the part of God. It is in His power to pour down torrents upon man, and, if He were to do it, His justice could not be arraigned. There is nothing which He can be tied to perform, nor can any injustice be supposed in Him, nor can He be under obligation to any person whatsoever.'

Muhammad's lying permitted!

How can Muslim's explain the inconsistency of the fact that, in the Qur'an, Allah pronounces woes on all liars, yet on the other hand permits Muhammad to break his solemn oath (Holding (Something) to be Forbidden [At-Tahrím] Sura 66:1,2):

66:1 O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives ? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. 2 Allah hath made lawful for you (Muslims) absolution from your oaths (of such a kind), and Allah is your Protector. He is the Knower, the Wise.

Similarly, can they not see the difficulty in accepting that Muslims may take only four legal wives, but that Muhammad could take as many as he wished. In Sura 33:49, we read:

'O Prophet! we allow thee thy wives whom thou halt dowered, and the slaves whom thy right hand possesseth out of the booty which God hath granted thee, and the daughters of thy uncle, and thy paternal and maternal aunts who fled with thee to Medina, and any believing woman who hath given herself up to the Prophet, if the Prophet desire to wed her - a privilege for thee above the rest of the Faithful.'

'Daughters of thy uncle'?  Did you forget to mention this in your claims to scientific wonders in the Qur'an?  Even today, in contemporary Britain we are seeing the tragic fruits of in-breeding in Islamic families, caused by following the decrees of Muhammad's Qur'an, resulting in the birth of genetically damaged children.  But fear of the 'religion of peace' causes health and government departments to turn a blind-eye to this foolishness!

If Allah is not bound to do what is righteous, there can be no certainty as to what he may decide to do on the Judgment Day. Allah is a dictator whose decisions are inconsistent and arbitrary. One Muslim tradition relates that in a certain village two men died about the same time. One was a pious Muslim who always kept the fast, said his prayers, had gone on a pilgrimage to Mecca, and observed the law of God.  The other man totally neglected his religious duties, and did all manner of evil. One night the village priest had a dream, in which he saw the good man writhing in the torments of hell, and the evil man enjoying the wine and
houris (maidens) of paradise. When in his dream, he complained to God of this obvious injustice, Allah replied: 'Have I not the right to do as I please with my own?'

Belief in such an inconsistent God must lead to tormenting fear - as does the doctrine that salvation depends on good works outweighing evil works, for no one can be sure his good works will outweigh his evil works.  Another Muslim (Shia) tradition declares:

Ali fainted 70 times a night from fear of the Day of Judgment".

How great is the contrast between the God of the Bible and the God of the Qur'an! Allah has decreed the good and bad actions of all men; in the Bible all men's actions are their own choice. In the Qur'an, Allah has predestined the majority of men to damnation; in the Bible, because God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance, He has provided salvation for all men. In the Qur'an salvation depends on one's own personal merits, so that none in this life can have the wonderful joy and peace which comes from knowing he is saved already; in the Bible, every believer in Christ already possesses eternal salvation -  which means he can never lose it (
John 5:24; 10:28,29; Matthew 15:13; Romans 8:35-39). In the Qur'an there can be no Father-child relationship with God, for God is not Father, but only Creator; in the Qur'an the decrees of Allah make prayer, as distinct from praise, useless; in the Bible God is 'our Father in Heaven', believers are the children of God in the spiritual sense, and all men His children in the natural sense (John 1:12; Acts 17:28).

As the anthropologist Wilhelm Schmidt has shown in
The Origin of Religion, even the most primitive tribes have a name for God which means 'Father', as does the name 'Jupiter' which the Romans gave to their supreme deity. In the paradise of the Qur'an, its joys are all to be found in natural enjoyments of the flesh - the 'wine and women' type for men (what do women get - the few that will be there, if another hadith is to be believed?).  Nothing is said of enjoying fellowship with Allah.  In the Bible, the believer's chief joy on earth is 'fellowship with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ' (1 John 1:3). In Heaven, with its multiplicity of eternal joys, the supreme and surpassing joy of the redeemed will be seeing God face to face with unclouded vision, having unhindered fellowship with Him, and giving Him unwearied service (Rev. 22:3,4; 21:3).

So unknowing is Allah that even Muhammad admitted that he was unsure of his salvation (Hadith 5:266) - and he did not die in
jihad but on his wife's knees, so why should any Muslim believe they have any surety of reaching paradise by mimicking the life of the 'prophet'?!

So important is the doctrine of the nature, personality, and ministry of the Son of God that the Bible warns us: 

No one who denies the Son has the Father" (1 John 2:23)


Any one who goes ahead and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God; he who abides in the doctrine has both the Father and the Son" (2 John 9).

Since every Muslim who follows the teachings (doctrine) of Muhammad and his Qur'an denies the Biblical doctrine of Christ we can say with absolute 100% certitude that no such Muslim has the Father God of the Bible,
while everyone accepting the Biblical doctrine alone has both the Father and the Son.  Only rejecting Muhammad's false doctrine and embracing the true doctrine of Christ leads to eternal life in Paradise!  Who, knowing this, would have anything to do with Muhammad and his Qur'an?

You say that '
ignorance is not bliss'.  Our appeal to you (and every Muslim) is not to allow your ignorance of the truth as fully revealed in Christ alone, or the fact that some 'Jews reject Christ' (you have surely heard of Messianic Jews and 'Jews for Jesus'?)  to cause you to reject the Only Begotten Saviour who you really 'should embrace,' for He calls you with these Words:

JOHN 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven - the Son of Man. 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so
the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.  16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

The message is clear - only by accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour can you be absolutely certain of escaping the punishment of Hell and enjoying eternal life with Almighty God - The Perfect Heavenly Father of the Bible.

In Christ Jesus



We heard nothing more from Rami … until:

From: Rami Sbeiti
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:13 PM
To: christian.expositor@ntlworld.com

Subject: Hi

PLease remove my name /thread where I am referenced ASAP. http://www.thechristianexpositor.org/page286.html and any others.

Thank you,


TCE replies:  8th March, 2011

Dear Rami

we have read your request and wonder about the logic of spending resources on such a time absorbing request, for the following reasons:

we have clearly elicited the circumstances under which we deal with received mail;

your name is surely not unique and therefore, whether it appears on pages or not, nobody is likely to connect you with the expressed views - unless you reveal this fact;

the views you do express are fairly 'moderate' Islam - even your views on Jews (compared with historical, anti-Semitic, Islam!);

you may have changed your views but, if so, why would you desire that people do not relate your name with the views formerly expressed?;

perhaps you now wish to hide your previous/still held views - this could be for many reasons but, if it is because you now seek to lower your profile, is the reason genuine, i.e. such views may hold back your career (in which case deny that the Sbeiti on our pages is you!);

however, you could desire to disassociate yourself from these pages because your views were all thoroughly refuted/you have taken a more radical direction and do not wish to draw attention to your name on the www?;

If the reason is the latter then we are morally obliged to leave your name where it is!

Can you persuade us otherwise?  You will have to come up with a convincing argument that we have not considered - and it will have to be logical and not relying on emotion, e.g. your family read the articles and are embarrassed that R. Sbeiti expressed views that were so easily refuted, etc.

Of course, 'googling' your name reveals a user of the same name who holds views that some would hold to be extremely unsympathetic to historical Islam, as viewed by genuine 'Jihadi Muslim Brotherhood' types, but sympathetic to 'infidel' American ideals!

Whatever your reasons, we stand by the same orthodox Christian viewpoint we shared with you.

In Christ Jesus, Saviour God of the World,



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Topics discussed on pages responding to Muslims
Section 1-36:

Muhammad the Comforter? (1) (2)

Christians hate Muslims!

Prejudice against Islam? (1) (2)

Is the Holy Spirit a Person?

Ahmed Deedat's debates!

Jesus - Begotten not created!

Jesus - 'My Lord and My God'!

Christ - God and Saviour

The Bible or the Koran?

Qur'anic Mistakes (1) (2)

Mistakes About the Trinity

Mistakes About the "Son" of God

Accuracy of the Bible vs. Qur'an

Sword of Islam

Trinity and the Father

Atonement before Adoption

Justification entirely by Grace

Law versus Grace

Begotten not created!

Was Jesus Crucified?

Sin and the Atonement

The Christian view of Sin

The Character of Sin

The Conditions Required


The Person Required

Only the Son of God

The Mode of Death

Holiness Through Jesus' Sacrifice

The Conditions Fulfilled

Atonement not At-one-ment

Only Jesus brings Peace with God

Islam, Christians and Jews

Islamic jihad worldwide

Slavery Today!

Who are the real terrorists?!

Deaths caused by Secular Wars

Who dropped the Atomic Bomb?

The Origin of Nazi Ideals?

'Kill the Jews' - Quotes

Islamic Links to the Nazis

Muhammad took Mecca peacefully!

Details about Jesus unimportant!

'The Trinity' cultic revisitation

What makes Islam so evil?

Crusade-like ... leads to hell

Accuracy of the Qur'an? (2)

Importance of Hadith Literature?

Eternal Destiny, Sin and Death

Holy Jehovah or 'Deceiver' Allah?

Contradictions of 'The Deceiver'

Contradictions in other Suras

'The Night of Power'

Predestination to Damnation

One Muslim's Despair

What Islam Says About Zinaa

Contrary to Qur'anic teaching

Nonsense of 'Abrogation'

The Unchanging God of the Bible

More on Dhimmis - and Jizyah!

Dawah and Jihad

Following Muhammad's Example

'Jesus ... Violence and Swords!?'

Old Testament - 'God's Holy War'!

Miracles and Islamic Conquests?

Hadith Accounts of Miracles

Biblical Tests expose Muhammad!

Those 'Satanic Verses'

Moses - a true predictive prophet

Moses proves veracity of Gospel

Muhammad supported Polytheism!

Jehovah's Judgement vs. Allah's

Joshua's "Ethnic Cleansing"!

The Peaceful 'Sword of the Spirit'

Christ Revered in the Qur'an?!

Science and the Qur'an!

Qur'an - sun sets in muddy spring!

Illiteracy of Muhammad?

Origins of the Qur'an?

Islam not as evil as depicted!

The Bible exposes Muhammad!

Muhammad - Christ's Successor?!

Qur'an and Bible - same origin?

Muhammad's lying permitted!

The 'Moon God Theory'

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